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An introspective question from @nick
Q3. What annoying thing do YOU do on rides? (yes YOU not others)
I ask this because I've caught myself coasting when im tired, peddle peddle coast peddle. It annoys me and i know its annoying if you're behind someone that does this.
(update to add some clarity: https://sfba.social/@nick@biketoot.com/114163506434794289)
@ascentale @nick @bikenite A3. I'm surprised you feel that way. Do you only go on roadie rides?
The rides I go on, when I go on them, are no-drop. People are sometimes going to be tired and sometimes people are going to coast.
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I guess what I do on rides that's annoying is verbalize instead of just keeping it to myself when something annoys me. I need to learn to be quietly grumpy if I'm not justly grumpy in everyone's eyes. #BikeNite
@ascentale @meganL @nick @bikenite That is not what I'd consider "going on a ride". To me that's sport training, and nothing to do with everyday cycling.
@spacehobo @ascentale @nick @bikenite I do think it's good etiquette to call out slowing to a stop (there's a hand signal for it, although drivers and cyclists alike seem to forget it), but I think expecting everyone to be going the same speed all the time is unrealistic at the very least. #BikeNite
@meganL @spacehobo @nick @bikenite Yeah, I should clarify, that the example in the question does seem mostly related to riding for sport, and I can see it in the context of my own experience of riding for sport. It's definitely not an expectation for an everyday ride and I don't think the question was intended to be asked that way.
@ascentale @meganL @nick @bikenite It just seems like sport cycling is such a niche exception that it should be called out every time that is the framing. I suspect a lot of the people participating here have never lived anywhere people actually cycle, and it's damned confusing to read between the lines in their posts.
@spacehobo @ascentale @nick @bikenite Hey hey, let's keep the judgment out of it, please. ("bizarre") Let's keep #BikeNite friendly for all kinds of cyclists, even competitive road cyclists.
@meganL @ascentale @nick @bikenite Fair. Removed. I just felt like there was this hidden message of "you're annoying if you freewheel in public" that felt like I was trying to work out if I was being insulted or not.
@spacehobo 90% of my rides are solo. I was trying to frame the question to be about what habits you may have picked up that you yourself find annoying that you try to get out of. Mine happens to be coasting when i should be pedaling (spelt correctly :D), when i catch myself doing it i get annoyed with myself
@nick Yeah, I just can't understand the frame of mind that puts that "should" in, sorry. It's like policing the number of times you push a lift call button or something. Pedal when you feel like it helps, and relax and let the bike roll along. It's just about getting to where you need to go.
@nick I hope you're not being too hard on yourself! It's ok to rest! but I suppose it's also okay to feel annoyed at yourself 
@meganL @ascentale @nick @bikenite I'm kind of going to disagree on this. If there's a red (or amber, really) light, EVERYONE should slow to a stop. If there are give-way markings, EVERYONE should slow down. It won't be a surprise.
I suspect these sport trainer types are riding too close for anyone but the front riders to actually pay attention to the road conditions, which is another reason it's a bizarre exception to the way people actually ride bikes.
@spacehobo @ascentale @nick @bikenite I'm referring to stops that are not at a stoplight or stop sign, but stops people are making where it's not generally expected.
Those do happen on friendly rides (to put on sunscreen, to tend to a child, etc). and if they're not signaled, they can sometimes cause crashes. #BikeNite
@meganL @ascentale @nick @bikenite Yeah, absolutely. But honestly even motorists just indicate a turn to stop at the kerb. That's probably easier to remember than a "special" hand-signal.
Of course I'm in a place where hand signals are more natural, and aren't mandated with the assumption that they're happening out a car window.
@spacehobo @ascentale @bikenite Yeah, I think it's more of a necessary when you're in a big group, particularly with cyclists who are not as experienced (whether solo or in a group).
We get tons of new cyclists in Davis every year. People who haven't ridden since they were kids or haven't ridden ever before. They cause LOTS of collisions because they have no sense of situational awareness. #BikeNite
@spacehobo @bikenite
If you're in a crowd cycling and signal a turn, they may think you're turning where the road turns ahead instead of turning to stop at the curb or turn entirely off the road.
Nearly got hit very hard by someone turning entirely off a roundabout, over a sidewalk, and into a tucked-away cycle rack. Didn't signal that one at all verbally or with hand signals.
I actually followed them to "have a litle talk" with them because they so nearly hit me without remorse. #BikeNite
@spacehobo @bikenite All pointing is abstract. It requires connecting something between the action of a primate putting their finger somewhere and anything that might be going on outside the primate.